SCAM ALERT: (800) 921-4557 - The Career Hotline on Craigslist
I'm re-posting this from a thread I put up on the NY Craigslist Jobs Forum as a warning to job seekers:
"There are several postings floating around Craigslist in New York offering Warehouse and Engineering jobs starting at $20-30/hr or $40-$60 thousand a year. The short post lists the usual offerings for perm jobs (benefits, blah-blah-blah) and offers an 800 number to call.
When you call the number, you get a short speech; a female voice introducing the company as The Career Hotline, offering their services as a job service where you're guaranteed placement in one of the many jobs they have. You are told that you must be available to work immediately within the next two weeks, followed by being informed that there is a guaranteed placement fee of $195.
The voice then offers the option of pressing '1' to speak with a representative, but immediately following that announcement, the line you have called attempts to transfer you to another line. I hung up before being connected and searched for references to this company.
Apparently the number 800-921-4557 pops up in ads around the country; in Chicago, Indianapolis and even Aurora, CO; offering the same exact thing.
I searched the Better Business Bureau, but they had nothing. I searched the 800notes database, but again nothing. I then came across a page from the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) which essentially confirmed my suspicion. This is definitely a scam. Outside of the obvious that a company cannot guarantee that you will be hired for anything, the fact that you have to pay an up-front fee (likely over the phone) should raise anyone's hackles immediately. But worse, the attempt to switch you to another line would likely have dropped you onto a 900 pay-per-call or pay-per-minute line without your knowledge, which is illegal.
So bottom line, if you see a job listing with 800-921-4557 listed in it, don't waste your time. If you call any number and here a recorded voice introducing The Career Hotline or a similar name, hang up immediately. Luckily I had the wherewithal to avoid this scam, but others might not be so lucky, so pass it around.
The FTC's page on identifying and avoiding scams like this can be found at this page:
http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/edu/pubs/consumer/products/pro22.shtm
Good luck! "
The thing that gets me is how many of these scams have become more prevalent during this economic crisis. It's bad enough so many people are down on their luck and out of work, maybe just getting by or hanging on by a string. If you're a job seeker or someone who is legitimately seeking work and trying to get by, you might get caught up in something like this fairly easily, and then BOOM, you're out of money and on your behind while someone else gets rich for nothing. These are the pocket Bernie Madoffs; the ones that play the shell game with a smile on their face and a song in their heart, while their accomplice picks your pocket. If we should be outraged about anything (and I'm really not outraged by what I talked about on the last post anymore), it should be by this.
Craigslist had a fine business model that has affected print publications like newspapers in major ways (remember the yellow LOOT newspapers? Look where they are now!), but I would argue that the business model is suffering because there's little to no oversight from the company that posts or publishes this crap. Self moderation in Craigslist has often bred laziness, scams and disrepute from people who go there regularly or not-any-more. Craigslist has even been on the news lately for published posts that turned out to be middling-to-deadly scams and ripoffs, or people selling drugs using coded dialogue. You would think that the company executives that oversee Craigslist and other sites and publications like it would take a more proactive approach to monitoring this kind of crap, but the thing is that they obviously see this as a turnkey operation that can fix itself with minimal oversight; anything more would jeopardize the feel-free relationship they have with customers, posters and site viewers. While Craigslist is not total anarchy, the lack of oversight has fostered a community of maligners, disreputable business practices and disrespect to potential customers who are trying to transact business or make contact with others about jobs, items or even relationships. You might be better off by just avoiding the site altogether, as others have posted expressed similar experiences and observations.
What would I recommend? Hire mediators, PT or FT, who would verify the info on the posts for veracity and contacts. They could screen illegal transactions and warn away scam artists. If nothing else, it would create jobs for people who needed one, and it would help right the ship so that Craigslist can once again be a reputable and respectable site to do business or meet people again (if it ever was before). Some (not total) oversight and responsibility on the company's side is better than total domination from one side or another.
Until then, I'll likely stick with Amazon and Ebay... >;)
"There are several postings floating around Craigslist in New York offering Warehouse and Engineering jobs starting at $20-30/hr or $40-$60 thousand a year. The short post lists the usual offerings for perm jobs (benefits, blah-blah-blah) and offers an 800 number to call.
When you call the number, you get a short speech; a female voice introducing the company as The Career Hotline, offering their services as a job service where you're guaranteed placement in one of the many jobs they have. You are told that you must be available to work immediately within the next two weeks, followed by being informed that there is a guaranteed placement fee of $195.
The voice then offers the option of pressing '1' to speak with a representative, but immediately following that announcement, the line you have called attempts to transfer you to another line. I hung up before being connected and searched for references to this company.
Apparently the number 800-921-4557 pops up in ads around the country; in Chicago, Indianapolis and even Aurora, CO; offering the same exact thing.
I searched the Better Business Bureau, but they had nothing. I searched the 800notes database, but again nothing. I then came across a page from the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) which essentially confirmed my suspicion. This is definitely a scam. Outside of the obvious that a company cannot guarantee that you will be hired for anything, the fact that you have to pay an up-front fee (likely over the phone) should raise anyone's hackles immediately. But worse, the attempt to switch you to another line would likely have dropped you onto a 900 pay-per-call or pay-per-minute line without your knowledge, which is illegal.
So bottom line, if you see a job listing with 800-921-4557 listed in it, don't waste your time. If you call any number and here a recorded voice introducing The Career Hotline or a similar name, hang up immediately. Luckily I had the wherewithal to avoid this scam, but others might not be so lucky, so pass it around.
The FTC's page on identifying and avoiding scams like this can be found at this page:
http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/edu/pubs/consumer/products/pro22.shtm
Good luck! "
The thing that gets me is how many of these scams have become more prevalent during this economic crisis. It's bad enough so many people are down on their luck and out of work, maybe just getting by or hanging on by a string. If you're a job seeker or someone who is legitimately seeking work and trying to get by, you might get caught up in something like this fairly easily, and then BOOM, you're out of money and on your behind while someone else gets rich for nothing. These are the pocket Bernie Madoffs; the ones that play the shell game with a smile on their face and a song in their heart, while their accomplice picks your pocket. If we should be outraged about anything (and I'm really not outraged by what I talked about on the last post anymore), it should be by this.
Craigslist had a fine business model that has affected print publications like newspapers in major ways (remember the yellow LOOT newspapers? Look where they are now!), but I would argue that the business model is suffering because there's little to no oversight from the company that posts or publishes this crap. Self moderation in Craigslist has often bred laziness, scams and disrepute from people who go there regularly or not-any-more. Craigslist has even been on the news lately for published posts that turned out to be middling-to-deadly scams and ripoffs, or people selling drugs using coded dialogue. You would think that the company executives that oversee Craigslist and other sites and publications like it would take a more proactive approach to monitoring this kind of crap, but the thing is that they obviously see this as a turnkey operation that can fix itself with minimal oversight; anything more would jeopardize the feel-free relationship they have with customers, posters and site viewers. While Craigslist is not total anarchy, the lack of oversight has fostered a community of maligners, disreputable business practices and disrespect to potential customers who are trying to transact business or make contact with others about jobs, items or even relationships. You might be better off by just avoiding the site altogether, as others have posted expressed similar experiences and observations.
What would I recommend? Hire mediators, PT or FT, who would verify the info on the posts for veracity and contacts. They could screen illegal transactions and warn away scam artists. If nothing else, it would create jobs for people who needed one, and it would help right the ship so that Craigslist can once again be a reputable and respectable site to do business or meet people again (if it ever was before). Some (not total) oversight and responsibility on the company's side is better than total domination from one side or another.
Until then, I'll likely stick with Amazon and Ebay... >;)
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I called the number and talked to a "manager". He told me that I would be interview the next day for jobs and I will have multiple interviews a day. He said he usually lines up a job in 4-5 day the longest he has ever taken was 11 days because they had to relocate somebody.
To pay he said he will not do it over the phone. You will have to go to Bank of America and deposit the money in a corporate account. When that is done call them back with the transaction number and they will get the ball rolling.
He said the fee was for advertising, administrative and the resume service. They charge you and not the company because they work for you! lol
I ask him about what jobs he had and he said companies come to us because because want to be confidential. I kept asking if I could just see a job description for my area. He was like go to our website, I have a lot people I out there I am finding jobs for... if you need to think about it call back.
There website is http://careerhotline.org/ it is basically a template. They "work with 5000 companies" but there is no place for the a company to hire them on the website.
"If something is to good to be true it probably is." They are taking advantage of desperate people. That is why you need to start with in 2 weeks = desperation.
Lastly about the 100% guarantee I go to the great movie Tommy Boy:
Here's the way I see it, Ted. Guy puts a fancy guarantee on a box 'cause he wants you to fell all warm and toasty inside...
Because they know all they sold ya was a guaranteed piece of s---. That's all it is, isn't it? Hey, if you want me to take a dump in a box and mark it guaranteed, I will. I got spare time. But for now, for your customer's sake, for your daughter's sake, ya might wanna think about buying a quality product from me.
CLASSIC!! LOL
And thanks to Rico for delving further into it and exposing the scam further, that's important information to know about this company and others like it.
If this is a verifiable and true experience (you're not just a poser, we hope), plus it doesn't turn out to be a "temp" situation where you're let go after an extremely short period of time for whatever reason, then I'd be willing to do a rewrite.
I encourage others who have had experiences with this company to post with their own stories; success or not. It's important to get info out there that helps one way or the other.
In searching other posts, I discovered that the webmasters have caught several different comments were posted from the same IP address. This is a way for scammers to throw doubt into an expose; if they were truthful about what they were selling, they'd certainly defend their honor a little harder than a random contrary comment... or several from the same IP!
Also in the news, beware the Black Money Scam; the same scam that got two con-artists killed in the Long Island condo of a former Jets player just last week (from the date of this comment.)
If you don't know anything about this scam, read this link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advance_fee_fraud
Plus, beware of the con where someone bumps into you and loudly claims you made them drop something, then keep yelling and screaming and demanding payment for their loss until you relent. It's a pure scam. They try to bully, embarrass or annoy you into paying them to go away.
If anyone tries this on you, go to the nearest open public business space and use a phone to call the police and/or ask for assistance.
Chances are, they'll leave really quickly when they know the authorities on on the way. And if they still try to play the game? Let the police sort it out.
they are nothing but low life scammers who will get what they deserve
"No legitimate employer asks you for money. This is a foolproof tip off that something's not right," Giroir says. "There are a number of scams that work this way. You deposit your money in an offshore account and wait for your investment to make you wealthy, or you purchase a list of high-paying jobs you can do from home. Whatever the scam is, don't fall for it."
This company is NOT doing anything for noble purposes. The company is charging people to do something a person would ordinarily be able to do him or herself if they knew who was actually hiring. The real problem is that their message guarantees that they will find a job for you.
NO ONE can make a promise like this, and if they do, the FTC among other organizations and agencies, whose jobs it is to protect people from companies who make false promises, will tell you to STAY AWAY. They will tell you first and foremost it is a scam. But if one doesn't believe them, one can always ask these questions him or herself. It's free to ask questions.
Now I have a question for you: if you are truly helping people with their resumes, why do you comment on a blog defending scam artists using RUN ON SENTENCES? No punctuation: no credibility. Poor grammar: poor prospects. Sorry, but I wouldn't trust you to write a fortune for a Chinese fortune cookie.
You speak for the quality of the company you apparently work for. Need I say more?
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let me start off by saying that i took much time and consideration on this subject. i thought it was a scam then i got desperate and payed the fee they called me back and sent me on numerous interviews till i found the job that was right for me now im in the field of my choice and making fantastic wages i jst want to tell careerhotline inc thank ou and hope that they do well in all areas of there lives
i is a liar
I was one of those voices you heard. I only worked there 2 days. They not only scammed you, but us as well. They said we'd make $50.00 per "sale". I made nothing. At first it all sounded good, until people kept calling stating they never heard back from anyone after paying the fee. Needless to say, I was glad none of my callers spent their money. One of the managers actually asked my fiance to use his credit card to pay for an ad on Craigslist. Thats when I left. I want to apologize for my association with this scamming company. I'm just glad I decided not to stick around, unlike some of the others did.
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And you must be available to work a minimum of 35 hours per week. Full benefits are offered that include medical, dental, 401K and vacation/holiday pay. Typically our clients are starting their new jobs in 14 day's.
Over 90% of our job vacancies are completely unadvertised so if you are able to start work within the next two weeks call today and be ready to interview.
That's why we are searching for you!
If you are serious about getting to work, you have come to the right place!
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bullshit
The BRIGHT light is dimming to Grey and Grey doesn't matter you all suck for ripping the people off you low lifes, gutter babies
But I actually paid $149...And when I called today the message now says $89 (what gives?)
I was told to send a money order in the amount of $149 with a copy of my resume to them...( which i did already)
Im hoping something good comes out of this... Some guy named Barry Williams ( which I was nervous of being a Phony name to begin with) told me by tuesday the latest I should be hearing from potential employeers! ...
Ill keep everyone informed!
And thanks to Carol for coming forward out of that organization and exposing the inner workings of the scam. That's really important, and I would hope others in similar circumstances would have the gumption she did.
Like I said, I don't begrudge anyone who has legit success from this, but I doubt there really IS success, except for the scammers. It's hard out there, folks, but do yourself a favor and do your homework on any claims that are generalized to fit a come-one-come all crowd.
My suggestion is to check the FTC website in the article above and speak to a consumer affairs agent, providing them with any information you have about this business, it's practices and how many people they deal with regularly. If you have any physical evidence of misdeeds by anyone in the company, let them tell you what to do next. You might also wnat to conact the Department of Labor about their practices, but I think since money is involved, this is a FTC situation.
I have to say I don't advocate illegal activity in retaliation; no matter how satisfying it may be, two wrongs don't make a right.
If you want to gather evidence to help the proper authorities put an end to their nonsense, that's something else. But by all mean, don't invade these peoples' personal lives with threats or harassment, because you'll only justify their nonsense by making them martyrs. That's not what this is about.
Signed....
Pissed off
I NEVER heard back from them, I emailed them 2 times, and still nothing.
Was told last friday that by this past tuesday the latest I would have interviews lined up...
Not a single person contacted me.
*sighs*
Well It is now officially 1 week since I have paid for it... and 3 days since I was told I would have tons of interviews to choose from....
Well I actually did get 3 emails from potential jobs.... ( 3 though not 40-50 like I was told) ... and these 3 are NOT the line of work I was looking for ....
I Was told that only warehouse labor positions would be coming my way with ABOVE average pay with full benefits... instead I got 3 mails from life insurance and marketing companies.... with only based on commission sales... zero salary ...
I need to get back in touch with them... cause ... $149 sucks for this... I could have simply got these 3 marketing jobs on my own......
lets see what happens... I will continue to keep all in touch with this....
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Parties: Career Hotline, Inc.
Susan Bright
Assigned Attorneys: David C. Fix (BCP/MP)
Arturo DeCastro
Alleged Conduct: Deceptive acts and practices in violation of Section 5 in connection with
job placement services and fees.
Status: Complaint filed 8/11/09.
TRO with asset freeze entered 8/11/09; extended 8/13/09 and 8/21/09.
Preliminary injunction entered 9/8/09.